This interview is from 2019. The course Stacey talks about no longer exists in this form. Today, Lydka’s methods are part of Lydka SAIL.
Stacey Ludwig is an ESOL (English as a Second Language) teacher for adults, and she teaches online Spanish for middle school and high school in her county. She is from Louisiana but moved to Florida 5 years ago.
Stacey has been learning Spanish for the past 18 years. She decided to learn German because her husband is from Germany. They have traveled to Germany many times, and she loves the country and people, but would have to sit for hours with her husband and his friends understanding hardly anything they were saying. She decided to learn German so the next time they traveled to Germany, she would be able to understand and hopefully participate in the conversations.
Stacey, you’re a language teacher yourself. Why did you decide to learn with Lydka?
I have always gone to classes. I had French classes from elementary school to college and Spanish classes in college. I thought that is the way to learn a language.
In Florida, I don’t live in a big city so there were limited classes in German. I tried learning programs, but they begin to be repetitious and boring after a while. I didn’t use them regularly.
One morning, I searched for how polyglots learn languages. There were many links from many people. I chose Lydia’s videos because she seemed so down to earth. Her explanations to language learning seemed so simple. I had expected something complicated. I bought one of her courses, and she talked about another one. I decided to join it because to me it had the makings of a class but without having to go to class.
Is Lydka’s approach different from your own teaching style or your experience with language learning?
Her approach from the very first video I watched was completely different to my teaching or learning style. I still had the mentality that a person had to go to a class to learn a language.
The students came to class, did the homework, and that’s it. I was frustrated that some students had hardly any improvement in the language.
After going through Lydia’s course twice, I realized that my students are learning just how I learned by just taking the class and putting minimal hours into learning but expecting to learn quickly. No wonder I am still not fluent as I would like to be in Spanish!
Now that I realize this, my teaching methods are changing, and I am trying to slowly change my students’ ways of thinking and expectations of learning a language.
What did your language learning look like before?
For my Spanish classes, I went to the classes twice a week at the university and a lab for an hour once a week. That was it. I was putting in minimal hours. I would travel to Mexico every summer for a month and would try to speak Spanish which was helpful since my friends I stayed with did not speak English so I was forced to speak.
After college, I hardly studied Spanish. I did use it quite often with my ESOL students, and slowly, I improved to where I am today which isn’t great in my opinion. I just didn’t know any methods to improve at home. I would occasionally listen to radio broadcasts in Spanish, but it wasn’t a habit.
I decided to learn German after the first time I went to Germany with my husband. I tried Rosetta Stone but didn’t like the lack of explanations when a new grammar concept came up. I tried Fluenz which I do like, but would only do it occasionally since the structure for each lesson is the same so I got bored.
I enrolled at the local college in a German 1 class, but it was packed with thirty 18-year-old freshmen, and the teacher did not know what to do. I enrolled in an online course at a university, but the class cost $1500!
Finally, I started looking up polyglots and found Lýdia. I also found videos on Jan van der Aa and Lucas Bighetti and signed up to receive tips from them. That is how I found out about italki. Then I took Lydia’s course and that’s when my language learning began to change.
How has your learning changed since then?
In the course, I focused on three activities – Listening, Speaking, and Vocabulary. Slowly, I started developing habits like Lýdia told us.
When I wake up in the morning, I watch videos in German while I drink coffee. I watch „Extra auf Deutsch,“ „Super Easy German,“ and „Learn German with Anja.“ These videos are short so I don’t feel overwhelmed. I watch the same videos over a course of two days. The first day I watch them twice; once with no subtitles and again with subtitles. The second day, I do the same thing except I write down vocabulary the second time I watch with subtitles.
I use this vocabulary for my Goldlist notebook. I also use the Brainscape website for flashcards. I started using LingQ for more vocabulary which practices reading at the same time. I have an alert at noon to do my Goldlist.
For speaking, I use my husband and my italki tutor. My italki tutor gives me homework that practices writing. For example, she’ll give me a „Father and Son“ comic. Before I write anything, I use self-talk to develop the story. Then I write it. With my husband, we usually go to practice my speaking in our backyard. We have started reading „Max and Moritz“ by Wilhelm Busch. My husband read these stories as a child. Of course, it is too complicated for me to understand everything, but it is good practice for my pronunciation, and my husband translates for me.
Why did you decide to take the course again when you already knew how to learn on your own?
I took the course a second time because I like the community and camaraderie of the Facebook group. There, you can share your victories and struggles and of course, make friends along the way. You can talk with others about how they are learning and to get a boost of confidence from the other members when you are feeling frustrated or stuck. We help push each other to continue.
I also like that Lýdia and her team collaborate with the Facebook group. It makes it feel like they care about you. The Facebook group feels like a family. I really enjoy this part of the course.
Also, the course makes me accountable. In my mind, I associate it with going to a class where I have to turn in my homework, but I control what and how I learn which is very eye-opening and liberating. At the end of the course, I have to prove that I have improved. I see my own improvement, and it is fascinating and exhilarating.
Did you change your learning plan, priorities, methods or anything else the second time around?
I started using the Goldlist method the second time around, and I can’t stress enough how much I love it! The first time I tried it, I wasn’t successful at all. I didn’t know enough vocabulary, and I didn’t have any idea of German sentence structure. I decided to try it again in the second round, and it works! It is unbelievable that my mind can retain most of the vocabulary after 2 weeks! I didn’t realize that I was learning vocabulary the wrong way before I learned about spaced repetition and word associations.
How would you rate the course? What has it given you?
The course has been a blessing! I have always loved languages but thought that I was not good enough to learn languages. Not being as fluent as I should be in Spanish lowered my confidence. I am learning German faster than I learned Spanish.
Participating in the course has brought me confidence in myself. I DO have the ability to learn a language independently, and it isn’t hard at all.
What was your level of German before you started? Do you think you’ve improved over these 4 months?
My German was extremely basic before the course. I had limited vocabulary and grammar knowledge. I feel that I have vastly improved during these two rounds of the course. I have learned more German these past months than all the years I have learned Spanish.
Are you going to continue learning German?
Yes! I have a 2-year goal to become comfortable in German. I guess this is what Lýdia calls a B2 level. As a test of how much I have learned, I will try to get my certification in teaching German for the state of Florida. I saw the practice test, and it looks challenging. There is also a speaking portion.
What does your learning look like between the courses?
Between the courses, I keep my schedule. This is a hobby for me so I don’t get tired of learning. I enjoy it.
I have a calendar where I write down all the activities that I do every day and for how long. I still fill out this calendar during the course.
Is there a positive experience with learning German you’d like to share?
Everything about my language learning experience with the course has been positive. I always thought that you had to be “special” to learn a language quickly. But the course has taught me that ANYONE can learn a language; you just have to put in the effort and find the right methods that work for you. I tell this to everyone who tells me “I can’t learn a language.”
